Disliked Oblivion as much as Skyrim

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Well i finally got so pissed off that i deleted the game.  I hate it for similar reasons as Skyrim:  Too much

time has to be spent in menus.  Some character steps in front of you during a fight and you accidently kill him,  then you are kicked out of that guild and have to load an old save and lose all play.

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I didnt realize i was still in crouch when i approached a guy involved in the current mission… He attacked me.. I killed him… Kicked out… Load save and replay.   Stuck in rocks… Load save,  replay.  Go to jail.  Go to jail.  Go to jail.   Find cool stuff… Drop cool stuff,  because bag is full.   You want to go one way… Horse goes other way.  You pay 1000 for horse.  Bear kills horse 30 sec later… Reload old save.
I know they are hugely loved,  but Elder Scrolls games are not for me.  I love the character customization –  huge fun.   But thats it.